S1 E44 Shit2TalkAbout Pride Vibrations with VIBEbrations
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Jenn Junod
Hey, vibrations, Pink Panther and Kennedy. Thank you for joining shit. You don't wanna talk about. Please introduce yourself and the shit you wanna talk about.
Pynk Panther
Well, I'm pink panther and the shit I wanna talk about today is just fucking being yourself. Oh my what?
Canade
And I'm Candy Lee. She I wanna talk about is having your friends back.
Jenn Junod
I dig it. I dig it.
Jenn Junod, Canade
And now could you tell us a bit about what vibrations is my versus is a musical entity of harmonies and color and being authentic to yourself.
Canade
Not having any rules or limitations and you know, not breaking the wheel.
Jenn Junod, Canade
But you know, adding to I dig it, I dig it.
Jenn Junod
All right. So something that we've talked about in the intro call and also I asked you specifically when writing down names because the beautiful audience knows I am horrible with names, but I'm working on phonetics of what are your pronouns?
Pynk Panther
Well, of course, like I said, I'm a pink cat that my pronouns are dating specifically because I have the essence of both. I am a feminine black gay man. But I'm also like, you know, I have masculine noises as well and I feel like everything entwines into each other. And so we were just talking about this earlier. I'm considered pretty, I'm not so, so, you know, I have a, a little bit of both and I'm happy with that.
Canade
I love that. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm Kennedy and my pronouns are banned them and actually that probably was discovered what over a year ago, just figure out how the scope of things fits for me and not to say, he doesn't name who I am, but he doesn't encompass all of that, that I am. And so it allows them to be free to express myself in all various ways that I can't. And you know, I respect the, the women or female energy and I have some of that because I was raised by women. So, you know, why not?
Jenn Junod
II I, yeah, it's intersectionality and I love how that shows up something that we talked about on the intro call that I think is you both were so open about of being gay black men. And something that I asked was, how does it show up with Pink Panther? As you said, You said you're pretty not handsome of being on that more feminine side and then Kennedy being more on that masculine side. I, I know and this is, I think I'm, I'm a little stuck on the question because how do you ask someone of how
they grow up with that being a black man? Yet especially a gay black man, yet you identify as they them. So it's like you don't wanna like bring someone back to an identification that is no longer part of them yet. I'm still curious of your journey because there's not, I feel like OK, I do feel hey words that it's a different stereotype of being a black man and also a gay man. And you have a different experience there. So could you share that and how you found the journey of they, them?
Pynk Panther
Well, for me, I grew in the South. I born and raised in Mississippi. So it was definitely different, grew up in church Baptist script in that area. So being gay, one thing like you said, being a black man, but also adding feminist or femininity on top of that. It was hard, like not necessarily from my mom or my grandmother because they love me unconditionally.
And I'm very grateful for that, but just trying to find your way of being told that you're not a girl, would you know that you're not a girl or you're not masculine enough to be in this organization or to play these sports or those type of things. So it, it was more of a struggle in the area of trying to find myself and being comfortable with being there because it's hard.
It's hard because it's a natural thing for me. I was raised mostly by women and of course my father, I knew my father but the males in my life wasn't present or as present and I was teased by most of the males in, in my life or in my family by calling me fag sissy queer and you need to go play with the girls. So, you know, that was how I picked up most of my mannerisms and I felt that it was wrong cause I was told that guys shouldn't walk like this or God shouldn't wear this or do that.
So I try to find this masculinity along my journey and just realizing the real definition of a man doesn't ride in how your actions is just the responsibility that you have. And to be black is one thing in America but to be black, gay, feminine and educated, I mean, there's so many targets on you just that alone.
So it was about maybe like you said, a year ago of me being comfortable with my feminine side and learning that I do have both energies and coming into the day and becoming a better understanding of being out and drive to this and I love it.
Jenn Junod
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
Canade
Well, my experience is definitely similar. It's fun because we talk a lot, we have a lot of conversations and my cousin, actually my older cousin, she asked me, she said, are you sure your phones? Are he? And I was like, he and his and I was like, yeah, yeah. She said no, I think we should like sit in that and try to figure out what that means for you.
Because like he said like, yes, I, I come off very masculine but my experience growing up has been traumatic. I'll say that in the, in the least because I've been teased, I've been bullied. I mean, most of my life but, a part of my masculinity comes from, of the area on my father's side because they're very much men presenting. They're very hard.
They're very much, from Brownsville. I know. You don't know what that means, but they're definitely from the hood. They're very much macho, they're very much, men. And so having that just genetically and then being raised by women. I'm, I'm a visual person and so watching my mom and my grandmother and my great grandmother, my great great grandmother move around. I picked up on how they moved and how they did things.
So my broken wrist was something that's wasn't normal for others, but it was normal because I this is my family. This is my, these are the women who are raised. So it was the journey has been interesting and exciting and hard because it's letting go of your idea of what it was or what you thought it was supposed to be. and allowing yourself more freedom. So yeah,
Jenn Junod, Canade
I, I believe you said it was your cousin.
Jenn Junod
Sounds like a very wise person saying sit with that and really being introspective about what you wanna identify as and I appreciate you both talking about the bullying because that I feel like that happens with anyone that is different and with so many different layers that you both have had to grow with because I don't want to say deal with because those layers are very beautiful.
They, they make you who you are. So, and I feel like a lot of people say deal with these layers or deal with this stuff and it's like, but that's what makes you so beautiful. That's what makes you a, a magical human being. And now, especially since we're kicking this off for pride month. Can we talk a bit about? You're coming out stories like what, how old you were?
At least, or when you knew I asked because I think it's something, at least for those that still are in situations that are not healthy or are really dealing with this on the inside and not, and have not come out that knowing what age that starts. So they stop questioning themselves as much.
Canade
Ok. so my grandmother said that I knew when I was three. Now she said based on our conversations and so I talked to her a lot, however, I didn't come out for myself until probably 18. and that coming out story is quite interesting because I was dating somebody and my mom asked me if I was gay and why did I have two myspace at the time? Because I was trying to maintain one aspect of my life and try to go into the other one and try to be whatever that was free, I guess.
so, it was at the time I didn't know how to articulate what being, how it was. I could only express out of, I wanna say desperation that I was gay and I like men and this is not my orientation. And even having that conversation with her multiple times afterwards and trying to, I wouldn't say convinced but explained that two men can hug, two men can kiss, two men can console each other because that was born to her, which I mean, obviously, she's a woman who likes men.
And thus that also embarked me on the journey of going to therapy and trying to have a deeper relationship with myself and uncovering things that happened in my past, which also got me to a place to come out to her again and my grandmother. so they could, I could say it in a loving way, but a firming way for myself. But for them to understand that this is who I am and that's just it.
Pynk Panther
See, oh I could say I was never in the ball. I big and feminine. I was never involved. I can't say you're at a certain age that I knew. I, I honestly can't say that. But when I finally told my mom that she was my senior year of college that I decided to, you know, voice it. She said she always knew that she wasn't surprised and she was just waiting on me to tell nobody in my family like that I did deal with ever asked me like I said naturally feminine.
So I feel like people just knew. So I don't have like this whole grand coming out of the closet to cause I feel like when you're naturally feminine there, you know, so you, you, you can't hide it. And if there is no story, the only thing I can say was I was doing a lot of research when I was in when I was in high school, I'm trying to tell my age because I was around at the time that we still had a dollar of internet and I was actually on black planet.
I know like, and I was in gay chairs because I was trying to understand and like, ok, what is it to be gay according to when I go to church and how I'm raised, this is such a bad thing to be, but I don't have anyone to talk to you and I can't say one of my favorite races was a show called The Gray. I love the Gray. I was able to identify with Marco and his story and how he dealt with things in high school.
I didn't have the similar experience but just trying to see how he dealt with it. De Grassi had a lot of you talk, we talk about a lot of life lessons on there. But Marco really helped in that aspect. But yeah, I guess I was always out of this Invisible closet that, you know, everybody else is in. I was never in it. I say it was invisible. But I can say that I told my mom my senior year, I will never forget that she had moved away at the time that she was in Texas with my sister.
And I had went there for Thanksgiving and I, like I told you, it was always weird because, you know, when you go through security, no one else can come with you. But my mom went through security with me to sit back with me as I got ready to fly out and we were talking and I began to cry. And I told her mom, I don't like women. I like men and she said, baby, it's OK. I love you guys.
Jenn Junod
Oh That is really beautiful and hearing how some people in your family just were both for both of you were just so open and accepting. How did it feel actually owning it? And the two like for example, like Kennedy, you, you had your two myspace is your your world. It sounds like they, you try to keep them separate yet they collided and my,
Canade
my leg, my leg. No, go ahead. Continue. Yeah.
Jenn Junod
Like how do you, I, I feel like so many people we start as we're on this journey, start having so many different masks when we are like one way to our family and one way to work and one way with our friends. And yes, we still all have that on site level yet they, when they start to merge and you become who you are, where you're so much more of this is who I am, no
matter where I show up. And yes, I may have a bit more emphasis on one or the other. I'm not completely different people. How did that feel? Owning it and those worlds colliding.
Canade
Honestly, it's, it's been the story of my life. because my mom and my father, so bringing into the masculine or the gay in the street and that going over honestly, it pro I probably only recently became really comfortable with it. And I'm saying that because it would, it, I enjoy how feminine or feminine he is, right? I, I enjoy it because that's a, it's, it's very loud, outspoken in his shit.
So like if he, whatever he puts on, he, he feels like it's it amplifies his, him, him being I put it on and it's like music and I'm just like, but I would like to be, I wanna be feminist too but it's, it, it's something that I embrace or I've learned to embrace that who I am. And when I walk through the door, it just is and I collide it and I make it my own and it just drips on me like water and it just is what it is.
However, it shapes how it falls however it it becomes, it's based off of how I see it. So it's, it's been a journey. It's been a interesting journey, but I wouldn't change it because I'm firmer in my beliefs and my understanding of myself and more importantly, the love for myself. And I love that.
Jenn Junod
Your shirt says love and the colors you both are wearing, they're so bright, they're beautiful.
Pynk Panther
Well, it's fun because we talk about this and I, where in a way he got to hide. I wish I could because it's just like, because I'm feminine or I've always been fem feminine to have those mannerisms. I couldn't hide it in my walk. I couldn't hide it in the way I talk. And then when I did put on certain things, it amplified it. Like I didn't color my hair back then.
But it's like now, you know, in different things like that because of when you are, you're put, you're pushed in the war front of the t the more masculine guys get to hide and obviously honestly be upset about that because I'm just like, oh, why, why can I hide and to them? They would be like, but you're so bold and so yourself. And I wish I could do that and I wish I could go there.
And I'm just like, ah, you know, just getting a perspective of both sides because people always stared at me or giggled or like, why he walk like that or why he's moving like that. So that's how women act. That's not how a man is supposed to act. So it was, it was hard. I even tried to hide it. I saw a picture the other day and when I was in college I used to wear really baggy clothes and I used to walk really slowly to show, to try to hide that I had a natural twitch.
But when I got comfortable, it was, it was right there. Like I couldn't hide it. So over the past couple of years of finding myself truly, like I said, talking about authenticity and not trying to meet that. I have become more comfortable with being
Jenn Junod
and I love how you both talked about that because I feel like it's still a daily journey because like even while I'm recording these episodes, I'm like, oh gosh, ok, like this person may have, or these people may have a completely different life than I do, which I mean, everybody does. That is the purpose of this podcast. And I have like, always think like, how do I bring the best out of them and stay myself because I've really grown up as a chameleon that would try to like morph into who
somebody wanted me to be. And now I've, I've found more of staying myself and taking care of myself and being the best version of me. I'm able to do that for others. Now. Kennedy, I, you mentioned at the beginning about the shit you wanna talk about of being like there for people and how, how do you request that? And how do you show up for others?
Canade
How do I request that? I would request that up? Ok. To be honest because, and I say because I understand that people have things going on life happens and things like that. I'm ve I'm very understanding to a fault sometimes. So asking for help or asking for my friends to be there, usually that comes with time for me because they've learned who I am and how I move.
And if I need it and I asked, that's when I definitely need versus how do I be there for them the same way. My friends tend, we tend to be similar in that aspect of one being him. But the, the other ones on my hands on my one hand, they are the same like I, I show up, I listen hold them accountable. I make sure that whatever they may be dealing with at the time, they understand that I am there.
I try to be very present for anything that is special going on in their lives. I, I try to be what I would want somebody to be for me, compassionate loving and some of that love is kind of tough, but most of that love is very real and loud and bold and you know, I allow them to be themselves in totality like there's no judgment, there's no, well, bitch that's wrong.
It's, it's definitely ok. So why or how, where did that come from? Like how did and not like I'm not in fixing mode with the front, I'm in so how, how are you gonna fix it? But how can we fix it together or are you sure? Oh, so, yeah, I mean, that's, that's how that works for me. I mean, friendship is a, a very high pillar for me. So if you, if you can make it to my, if you can make it to the level with me of being my friend, there's nothing I wouldn't do for you or at least try to do to the best of my
ability. because I think those are the people who, who get you through the day. Those are the people who make sure that you're ok, even if you are pretending that you're not, they, they're your family that you get to choose. And I think that's very important because I think sometimes people get into me specifically, I can get into a, a space in my head that I need somebody to come and knock on the door and be like, ok,
so are you ok, we need to go do something or, how do we get you out of this space or? Hey, I'm here to listen. and you're not crazy or let me pour love on to you. So things like that,
Jenn Junod
I love that and, and definitely being able to like, it sounds like your friends really know. And do you know when they're asking for help specifically? They're like, oh shit. OK, we got this, we're gonna be there.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
It's actually important like let's go and I today and III I love the fact that you talk about that.
Jenn Junod
It, it takes time to grow that to becoming a friend. It's not like, yes, like I will say that I pick up instant vibes from people where I'm like, they're dope people and like I feel like I could be friends with them yet. It feel I my dad, I do not talk to my dad anymore. He is a full narcissist, failed Connors story for another time. Yet he taught me a few things in life.
You would think about the love box where both people need to be able to put into the love box. And if you don't both put into the love box that if only one person's putting into the love box and one person's taking that person is gonna eventually be drained. And if you both just take from it, then there's not going to be any love left. So when you're both putting in the love box, I really appreciate how you talked in my head.
You talked about it. being able to be there for each other to show that love to each other to not I judge them on what's going on, but at the same time going, what the fuck dude like. And it, something that comes to mind of like the love box and being able to grow friendships is I can really vibe well with someone yet. It takes, at least as an adult it's hard to grow friendships and maybe, yes. And it's like I slowly put into the love box to see if they reciprocate and do either of you like have
suggestions on making new friends and how you, yes, it can be a vibe. But I feel like especially in the podcast community, there's so many beautiful humans and it's hard to build that friendship because it's like, how do you build a friendship now when you're not together? Like you're not physically together because so much of the world is now virtual.
Pynk Panther
Well, I'm I'm sleeping cause we talk about it all the time. People have to view relationships just as relationships in general, I think. Yes, we put them in subcategories but our relationships except for the one except like when you're with someone besides the sexual part of it, every relationship means the same thing. Communication, comprehension.
Let me do a comprehension in there. If you communicate how to say it, comprehension, love, compassion, no judgment. You know, it's just a list of things that go into that account building. And I feel like building friendships. Nowadays, a lot of people want to hold you accountable, but they don't wanna be held accountable and you also have to hold yourself accountable.
You have to be ok with being wrong at times and it's ok. It's not about being right and wrong. But if you are in the wrong, you're not above apologizing for saying that I'm sorry or you're not above just learning from somebody else because we don't know everything because everybody has a different experience as far as growing up. No two people are like, like he says all the time, identical twins are two different people.
So just learning to understand and no judgment and just coming in with the baggage. But also self-aware knowing the things that you have to clean up and knowing the things that you have to work on. And I think that that's just hard in itself cause a lot of people wanna work on everybody else and tell everybody else what to do but they don't want to work on signals or they don't wanna understand their own triggers or they may have trust issues and things like that.
So it definitely takes time. I can hear it now. Oh That's my friend. That's my friend. You will hear that from vibrations. Yeah, just because you know me of me from Instagram and of me from Facebook.
Pynk Panther, Canade
You know y'all mean you know me all so yeah.
Canade
I'm probably the worst person to answer this because it takes me a long time to make friends. it's a, it's a trust thing for me. and that, that trust has to be built over years, not weeks, not months. And that's about sharing. Oh, excuse me, taking the risk to share and be vulnerable. And that can be a little iffy because you don't know if somebody's going to use that against you.
You don't know how they're going to make you feel ashamed about it. So it's, it's more or less like, you know, you put your foot in the pool and kinda hope for the best. But usually you get that, that, that, that feeling as you said, that vibe about who that person is. But you, I pay attention to mannerisms and verbage and how people move.
And if you can be respectful to like an older woman on the street or a little kid or the relationship with, somebody we may mutually know is, you know, copas static. You, you get more room. I'm not saying you get the friendship but you get, you get more, you get more room.
Pynk Panther, Canade
So, I mean, I would just say trust your instincts on and disagreements show a lot of things too.
Pynk Panther
You need to understand how a person is gonna disagree, but we also have to give people room to grow. That's where the self-awareness comes in because a lot of people and this was me included did know that there was a major difference between transparency and vulnerability. You could be transparent all day. Transparency is very vague. I'm telling you what happened.
This is may how I react to it so forth. So the vulnerability is talk about how that particular incident may be. And I feel like anytime somebody is vulnerable with you, you never take that for granted or you never use that against them. And when you find people that's using that against you, they know that you need to be friends with.
Jenn Junod
That's beautiful and so true on, on both aspects of slowly building that trust with the vulnerability and vulnerability is definitely something that so many of us talk about now because Berne Brown has become so popular, which I love that we're finally talking about it. I I myself found that I created without meaning to fake vulnerability in the fact that I've been through a lot of shit and I can name it off like and people are like, oh my gosh, you're so brave, you're so vulnerable.
And I'm like telling it as bullet points is I feel more transparent than vulnerable because I'm not going into how I felt about it. So I love how you call that out pink. Like that is absolutely like on point.
Pynk Panther
You can because you can talk how it makes you feel that is a whole different type of oh my God.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
Like it, it could take you back Yes, yes.
Jenn Junod
Now one thing before we move into talking more about vibrations because y'all have, let me ask a ton of questions about the shit you wanted to talk about. And I feel like this is gonna lead a lot more to the authenticity that pink was talking about. What something that I've noticed in speech patterns as you two have been describing your stories is you still have referred to each other as he in certain aspects.
And I call that out because I get, have a really hard time with a, them, not like the words, they, them, it's changing how to it, it's, it's considered like a plural and in my head it's really hard to deal with the plural, not the fact that it's a, a name, but he and his is like a, in the English language is, you know, a singular where they, then there is all plural and I struggle with that because it's doesn't always compute.
And I hear that you've both said he in your speech, speech aneurysms in your whatever it was called. Yes, I, I'm curious how you feel about that if, if that's something that's just to each individual, how they feel or what you would say about that.
Canade
So to be honest, we probably are saying it right now but we use all in getting there. So definitely she and she she exist and everything. So it, it, we, we don't take offense to any program now. So that's why it's, it's probably a little bit easier for us. so, and also because we're in a different, the different generation of that's what we've been using most of our lives.
So, in speech, like you said, we're just talking to, I guess, save space, in a, in a sense, like, it's just an enormous of what we've gotten used to. But I'm, we called each other girl. She's on, she's getting on my nerves.
Pynk Panther, Canade
sit, sit down like, so it's, that's what the he, she, they then come into the, the conversation and to ask the question, it does depend on the person, but some people will definitely get a big.
Pynk Panther
so, you know, they say they are these particular things, you know, you try your best and to, to, say those things, but I also think that they need to give people breaks because it can be an adjustment of going from because people are very busy. So if I see a, she, I'm gonna call her, she, if I see a, he, I'm gonna call her and I don't really think that a lot of people are doing to be off, for example, where I work in my day job, like I said, I'm a pretty man and it's so funny because a lot of, you
know, cyst people, straight people come in and they, they hear me on the phone and they, they got a machine, they see me, they say, ok, maybe it's he. So they asked me what my program is out of respect because they were just like, I'm not sure. But, oh, I can talk to a lady over the phone.
That's fine. Oh, but I'm calling you a man in person. That's fine. But for other people that they are very adamant on me calling them that do it. But I also want them to get right to people as well to adjust to that.
Jenn Junod
Thank you. And thank you for also allowing the space to originally ask you how you both of you, of how you started to identify as they them. And I think that really helps us as a, as a human being able to see these transitions of other humans. And then like deconstruct the languages were taught and how you two are very, very open when I asked how you became they them and what life was like previously yet to your point that is not something that each individual would want to do.
That is, is, is not, I would say not something that someone would necessarily want to bring up unless it's in a safe space and you're gauging it yet allowing the other individual to not answer right and letting them know, hey, I'm not asking this out of, you know, harm.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
I'm asking this to like understand because I think this is a new world and so many people I think get upset with the two sides to it because people are doing it to be offensive.
Pynk Panther
But I do think there is a group and a percentage of people who are actually trying to educate themselves because I don't want to call you the wrong.
Jenn Junod
Yeah. And I felt like there's a bit of anger towards the transitions of identification because they don't understand it. So it's easier to be go.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
I was just gonna be mad about it, which can come off as, you know, rudely and meanly because they don't want change where it's just like they don't understand, they don't comprehend where this is coming from and like each person's journey, this little piece of story, I, I worked with someone who had a friend that was strange and she had always known him at that time as a he for years and he
trans, you know, transition to a transition to she and she will get upset if somebody mistakenly said he, but it was like, it's, it was taking time for people's minds to adjust.
Pynk Panther
They weren't saying it to be offensive. I've just known you this way for so long. So now I'm just getting used to this. I said the same thing when people get married, you may be used to calling them by a certain last name for the longest time. You've known them.
Pynk Panther, Canade
But now that they're married, it's like Oh, let me address you as ex wife reprogramming can take some time.
Canade
So, I mean, it's understandable. But I think like you said, I think you have to give each other grace and time to read, program their brain or take out or change or switch or modify my mom would say what's going on in their brain or how they would talk because what's happening now is completely different or maybe not completely different, but it's just, you know, the puzzle just doesn't fit the way it used to.
Pynk Panther, Canade
So now you have to turn the puzzle or have to see it from a different point of view and you can tell when it's an insult versus a
Pynk Panther
You could, you could tell when they're trying to be insulted.
Jenn Junod
Yeah, I love that and thank you for deconstructing that with us a bit. Now, something that I am so excited to bring up is vibrations and we haven't talked about it much and I absolutely love what you two are doing. What is vibrations a bit more? And how did you two end up starting it? And what are we looking forward in the future?
Pynk Panther
I wanna say before we talk about it.
Pynk Panther, Canade
I just always speak it when I say that I was talking about things like vibrations trying to check a couple of all the questions.
Canade
How did we get started? It was the accident. To be honest, we met at church impact church. And we were actually talking about one of our favorite groups of all time that's child and we were singing together and working together. And then I was working on my solo project at the time and he was helping me get that together and figure out how to make that the best of its ability and then get the cover to all of me.
I hope I'm not speeding through the story. We, and once we covered, oh, excuse me. So all of me was originally going to be a cover just for me, it was his idea. He was going to arrange it. But after hearing him on the song and what he added to it, it just made more sense. So our amazing producer agreed with me. He's usually on my side, which I'm so grateful for. And so that was the start of something that we weren't even aware of.
because that was also the start of Aquarius. who is it? age of age of yes, age of Aquarians. So, and we are both Aquarians so that he made it more of a like a oh, we should do this. So releasing that. and then working together on various other covers that we've changed. So welcome to The Light, I'm working with Jed. and then our all time favorite Christmas rendition of three amazing songs. Yeah, that was the start.
Pynk Panther
I'm add to that. Ok.
Pynk Panther, Canade
after the all me cover that I was tricked into, that's your adding strict into it.
Pynk Panther
in December we talked about doing a show called the and we actually did a show, we put together a show and, it premiered Me as Pink Panther and we just have it solved and the show was called Vibrations. But as we started to move on and, an interview was coming up for Out magazine and he and I had been working together still and it was just like, you know, huh we are vibrations.
And what I mean by that is I'm the v the frequency because we were talking about that. It's so crazy. We were talking about that, you know, of the video for vibration shows, not find the frequency, not even realizing we were talking about the the entire time talking about ourselves. So yeah, that's not bad.
Pynk Panther, Canade
But it was very organic, very organic.
Canade
Yes. Yeah. And so up and coming, we have soon to hear the airwaves of the world is our first original song and video. And like I said, soon it'll be out. Oh And yeah, we have other things coming up. We also have a, a showcase that's coming up. And of course, we're featured on this amazing podcast that is such AAA refreshing experience. So, yeah, vibrations, we are vibrations, period.
Jenn Junod
I'm just staring at the two of you going. Can you sing me something really quick? I feel like the audience like I feel like the beautiful humans listening are like they want a taste of vibrations.
Canade
You go now join me. You kicking me out. Get my head. No, I can't tell you pal what's going on that you my, I'm on your magical mystery ride and I'm so dizzy. Don't know me without my hands are
Pynk Panther, Canade
but five.
Canade
Yeah. Crazy. How about I thats all love you, love your curves in all the edges. All your perfect imperfections give you all to me.
Pynk Panther, Canade
I give up to your mind in by beginning and there
Pynk Panther
some wedding. Does that give you? Can you give me a let me Oh
Jenn Junod
So it was absolutely amazing. Did you two talk about that beforehand? Figuring that I would be asking you that.
Canade
Yeah.
Pynk Panther, Canade
And I was like she thought but I said the same.
Pynk Panther
Yeah.
Jenn Junod
Yeah. I'm so glad you two talked about that previously because phenomenal now we're, we're close to that 45 minute mark and I wanna check in and see we talked about, you know, being authentic to yourself and how you two worked on that a bit. But I feel like that could be its own episode. Like you both came up with two and like with vibrations.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
There's so many more questions I could be asking are, is there anything that you wanted to specifically talk about while you have this platform to really highlight on like I said, that was the major shit I wanted to talk about because it is such a journey.
Pynk Panther
And when I say being authentic, I mean, literally authentic to self. I, I always tell him this, I said it's amazing, you know, whatever people choose to believe in Yahweh God or whoever, how it was constructed and how every animal knows its purpose. A bee is never trying to be a wasp. A squirrel is never trying to be AAA chipmunk. They, they in aly know what they're supposed to do.
And I feel like we're built and constructed the same way you're in, you know what you're supposed to do. The only thing we all face the false self versus the true self because we allow the world to shape us and tell us what this is wrong, that is wrong. But innately we feel that we're supposed to do this or we know we're supposed to do that in our body and everything in our body is fighting against us to do what you're supposed to do or naturally be how we're supposed to be.
Stop fighting it. I know it's hard but you have to stop fighting it because it takes a lot of reprogramming once you get into the mode of this is who I am. So if you see the red hair, it's because now I am the Phoenix, you know, I always have to re reference a movie. I love the x-men Jamie Ray. The Phoenix is one of my favorite characters. I'm not crazy.
Like now I go in there but it's just amazing how Xavier explained how she had this dual personality that was trying to fight to get out because she caged most of her power away and you shouldn't have to cage that away. You shouldn't have to put that away. He's a uniform. We call him a uniform and the hair. So in different colors, you shouldn't have to hide any part in any aspect of who you are.
There's the, but there's the caterpillar stage which we feel like we've been through, there's the cocoon stage, but now we're in the butterfly stage where you need to spread your weights and just fly and be you unapologetically all the time.
Canade
And that can be, that can be difficult because I mean, you have to fight through what you thought you knew to be true. So to, to get go through the I I like to call it flames of a purity you want, you might have to burn off some things to be the full mode of what you're supposed to be, to be the whatever Yahweh has molded you as that clay instead of that, that I guess that basket over the clay that we've been trying to hide behind. So yeah, I think being authentic, it may sound easy not coming out
of our mouths, but it's definitely been a journey of shaking something. Excuse me, let me be clear, shaking some shit off. and it can be, I know one of our musical associates. She said it's hard and it can be exhausting and it can be very much, tiring. And that's, I don't want to say that. It's not that, but I mean, when you're pushing, you're fighting for yourself. Yeah, definitely. But it's definitely going to be worth it.
Pynk Panther
There's a lot of forgiveness of others yourself. It's a lot of self denial. It, it, it is a lot of realization and self-awareness like and you will lose a lot of people. I wanna be clear and I wanna say that again, you will lose a lot of people because they are so used to a certain version of even that you're no longer that version. That's not saying that that part of you didn't exist, but that's not all of who you are.
And let's be honest, that might not be who you are at all and you're living in misery. That's why we're seeing such a high suicide rate because people may have all this money, all of that. But they are miserable with who they are. They can't, they can't, they go to sleep at night fat on the inside because I am living a lot.
Jenn Junod
And to your point about that you lose a lot of people. There's also people, you burn that bridge on purpose, you're kicking out, it's not just losing them and their choice. There's people that you get, you get to get rid of you. You, you, you find the strength to get rid of because you became the Phoenix and now you're burning it off right in the two together.
Now, now Kennedy, is there anything that you wanted to cover about, you know, being there for others or now all I can get in my head, like can't get it out of my head is lean on me the song and that's really what I'm picturing now of being there for others.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you want to talk about?
Canade
Yes. I will say, don't forget who the person is. There can be heated moments, there can be extreme. They could be, they could be going through various stages of their own personal life, but don't forget what they showed you. So you can have an understanding of how to be there for them or even get them to talk and communicate with you. So remember, remember the love that you once had for that person?
Pynk Panther
Yeah, that staying doesn't define that. That mistake isn't the definition of who they are. People make mistakes, but like I said, don't forget there's a difference between a mistake and a character but Two different things completely agree.
Jenn Junod
That's another conversation.
Jenn Junod, Canade
That's a whole another conversation, conversation.
Jenn Junod
Ok. That was really fun. That was really fun.
Jenn Junod, Pynk Panther
I had to say it twice since you two said it in unison.
Pynk Panther
Thank you. We had a good time.
Jenn Junod
Now, what are you, are you looking forward to Pride Month? We're kicking off this with Pride Month and does Pride Month mean something to you
Canade
probably. But, it is, a lot of different things to me. I've been, blessed to experience DC pride, New York pride and Atlanta pride and they're all different in their own specific ways. But to me, it's about cader of friends and hanging out with people that you love and, and celebrating yourself as well. But at celebrating that it's OK to be which goes back to being authentic, but it's OK to, to love this way, to look this way, to feel this way to, to talk this way to express this way to be
proud of the things that people have sh out of you or try to manipulate for you to believe that it's not because they have their own insecurities or their own projections. So pride means to just be, be. Yeah.
Pynk Panther
Look, I like my, I, I've learned to weight my right leg in all, you know, but prior, but I see unity not just only in the community. what I got to experience the prior year, what I loved was there were a member of churches that were out there, preachers that were out there, not preaching at people, but showing love, showing that you're still a part of God family or whatever you choose. Sir, there was straight people there. It pride for me brings all walks of life from straight gay, black,
white Mexican. You see some, everything in it and it's a, you know, to be like no other. So it's definitely a beautiful thing and I definitely think that it's needed so much things happened over these past couple of weeks alone with grief with the kids as well as what happened at the particular store. So I just think that it's just showing that we can stand together, we can make ad
Jenn Junod
thank you for that. I, I completely agree in the fact that I can be an ally with pride. I think it's nothing that I'm ever gonna be able to fully relate to other than supporting and building up all of these humans that have been torn down so much and go. No, no, no, no, no, no. You guys can't be torn down. You're beautiful humans. Please be yourself. Please continue to push these boundaries of society that is trying to keep you in your cocoon yet.
Be bold, be beautiful or not bold and beautiful. You know, people don't need to be bold. There's no reason to force somebody to be bold yet just supporting a human the way they are instead of trying to put them into us back into the cocoon thinking that they can't be that way.
Pynk Panther
I love what you just said. it's not about understanding because I would never, he would never understand what it is to be the one to go through an abortion. But that doesn't mean that I can't stand with you. That doesn't mean that I can't support you. That doesn't mean that I can't march with you. I think a lot of people try to understand that if you've never walked in the shes of going through, like he doesn't fully understand what it is to be a feminine thing.
Like I don't fully understand to be a masculine man, but that doesn't mean like it's your love compassion. That doesn't mean that he doesn't have a story. And the like I, I love that you said that just sticking with us a lot of times that's what we need. It's not the understanding, but we just need to support this.
Jenn Junod
Thank you. Now, do you two have any words of wisdom to the beautiful humans listening or watching?
Canade
I feel like we, that's all we can.
Jenn Junod, Canade
It's the entire episode just really listen, vibrations and wisdom.
Canade
I'm trying to think take the risk. I know that's big but take the risks, take the jump, take the leap up the you may not think that you have the wings to fly but I promise you they'll come out of nowhere and you'll be slowing to the next day.
Pynk Panther
Yeah. Go laugh again. I got another movie where I am where it is time. It is time. I don't know what that means for everybody but it is time. Like it's just time to do what you know, that you need to be doing and it goes along with taking risks. We can't worry about what everybody else is saying. We can't worry about what everybody else. It's still, it is time that I need to be right. Get you all type of stick based. So
Canade
I liked it.
Jenn Junod, Canade
I it makes me think.
Jenn Junod
Did you guys like the live action version or the animated version better?
Pynk Panther
I like the animated version. I'll be honest, I'm so biased. One of my favorite movies, the live action, I love the way it looked, but I listened to a lot of soundtracks. They gave me everything I needed on the animated soundtrack and the live soundtrack just it was all wrong when they start, start for life and be prepared to give me the side. You know, it, it was just, it was just missing some things but it looked right.
Jenn Junod
It makes me happy that you two say that because I love all the animated versions. Like all like Aladdin was my favorite movie of all time and I watched the live action. I'm like, that's cool. Like if I it was its own movie, but comparing it to the animator, I'm like, I can't do it.
Pynk Panther
Can't, I feel like the only thing that gave me, what I knew that I know was animated at first Harry Potter when they made it into a movie. It was just as good as the movie. Oh, that is true.
Jenn Junod
That is true. I can't agree with that.
Canade
But, and I'm only saying, but because that was, I mean, that was a natural transition. They were human in essence, right? Yeah.
Pynk Panther, Canade
Versus like the cartoon they, I mean, because I know being a book, right when they make it into a movie.
Pynk Panther
Absolutely.
Canade
Absolutely. And they were some missing details. But, you know, we're not gonna go there, start different day conversation, different podcast. II, I allow me, I agree. I feel like we prepared. Should have been more of a, there should have been some more pain, but I, I just separate it too because Lion King is my all time favorite
all, I mean, animation movie. So that I, I can't, I want to see it because I, you know, I support the animation like it's, but, you know, two separate things for me in my brain.
Pynk Panther, Canade
I have to make two separate, I say no broccoli too.
Pynk Panther
And it was just so that's what I'm saying. Like it's not that the, the live action the way it looks back. I'm a music person. I went on a soundtrack before I know the movie. So I just need the soundtrack to give me that same by John Elton. John, oh my God. That Circle Black when he came in. But then when they did a live action, it was b
Canade
yeah,
Jenn Junod
I adore the two of you. And just to because we do need to round out the podcast and finish this up to our beautiful audience listening. You know the drill, we can always use your support by liking, sharing, rating and donating to the podcast. We definitely need your help. Yes, please donate. And now how do our beautiful humans reach out to you?
Canade
They can find us at vibrations to at on Instagram. So that's vibebrations, the number two underscore. And yeah, they can find us on soundcloud. They can find it soon to be on itunes, Apple Music, Spotify and all the swinging nations in the world.
Pynk Panther, Canade
That is no, but we gotta find us on youtube like we're literally too game.
Pynk Panther
So I know there's another possible vibrations out there, but we, we are no way. Let's see. We're colorful. How about that?
Jenn Junod
Yes. Yes, I appreciate you too bringing that up because my Googling was very, very confused before I met you too. I was very confused. Now, what is something that you both are grateful for?
Canade
Food break for my friend. I'm grateful for this opportunity. I'm grateful for what is in store for the future.
Pynk Panther
Grateful for this is bye. See my brother. I'm definitely grateful for our mom and our grandma and grateful for this opportunity and being able to live at it. Extremely great.
Jenn Junod
Thank you both. And I'd say something that I'm grateful for is the vibrations you both put off. You guys have good vibes. And it's been, I feel like I've had this cheesy smile the entire time. We've been talking of just learning about you and sharing your experiences and really sharing not only what you went through but ways of growing through it. And I feel like that is something that so many of us need. And thank you for kicking off pride month and talk soon.
Pynk Panther
Thank you. Thank you so much.
Canade
Bye bye.
